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Post by Imp on May 31, 2006 19:14:56 GMT -5
The Phoenix thing? She evaporated countless things - I don't think her power wouldn't be able to disintegrate Adamantium. Dark Phoenix can suck up the power of suns ... the bit where she died is absolutely terrible. I could imagine Storm being able to beat here, but Wolverine? Jean Grey could have pushed him back, in control or not! She could pull water up into the air, but she couldn't knock back one man? I guess you could validate it by saying Jean Grey may have been battling the Phoenix or whatnot, but that's doubtful. It seemed they switched Scott with Logan on this one, perhaps. Jean Grey doesn't really look as if she's trying to kill him - can't, won't - confused. Not to say it made it entirely plausible - just more so...
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Post by Caligula's Launderette on Jun 1, 2006 3:56:42 GMT -5
So,
I figured they must have a limit on blue mutants - Nightcrawler out, Beast in. Which is really sad cause Nightcrawler and Beast are two of my favorite characters, well after Wolverine that is.
Heehee, poor Scott, no one is too fond of him, but you have to give him props.
I like Bobby, I think it's partially due to the fact that I heart Rogue so much.
Squee! Angel. *sighs* Pretty boy with wings.
CL
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Post by Firestarter on Jun 1, 2006 7:36:48 GMT -5
Why does everyone love Wolverine? He is kinda cool n' all, but it seems the whole Marvel Universe revolves around him. I mean, all the movies have basically been about him. I guess that probably gets them more money, so I can't blame 'em.
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Post by electricbluemonkey on Jun 1, 2006 17:44:09 GMT -5
Havent seen it but I found this interesting. The release of X-Men: The Last Stand marks the 2,000th movie in the history of US cinema with a colon in its title. Compliments of gullible.info/
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Post by MH Mijolnir on Jun 1, 2006 18:26:30 GMT -5
Thats an achievment right there.
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Post by smaur on Jun 2, 2006 1:28:28 GMT -5
Lengthy spiels are too ... long. So, here we go.
Because Hugh Jackman is very attractive he's an anti-hero of sorts, and one of the better fleshed-out characters of the X-movie universe. You have characters like Iceman and Pyro and Cyclops, who are pretty weak and cardboardish (Cyclops gets vague character development throughout the movies before he, y'know, dies), and people like Storm and Jean Grey who are mostly there to look pretty. I'd say that Wolverine and Rogue are arguably the most well-developed characters in the movies at least, in the first two, if none other.
(Plus, he has a Mysterious Past and all. We love those.)
In the comics, though, he's creepy and gropey and annoying. Gambit owns him. But then, so does a wooden board.
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Post by jigsaw on Jun 2, 2006 1:50:45 GMT -5
I love the twist at the end, with the scene after all the credits had rolled...that was awesome. When Xavier died I was in shock and I kept expecting him to come back...to be alive...and then he did. That was cool.
It wasnt the adamantium saving him, it was his healing factor, what she destroyed just came right back. They could have done so much more with Xavier's death though; usually when it happens in the comics it has a profound effect on Magneto (like in Age of Apocalypse) and he takes over for Xavier. If they had done this in the movie it could have set up the path for Apocalypse' introduction in the next movie.
Also, it was hinted that the next movie would have Sentinels (active ones not those in Danger room activities) as Bolover Trusk was in this movie.
Incase you didnt see the post credit scene: Xavier transferred his mind to a body (which he uses as an example in one of his lessons during the movie) that has no conciousness. It's in the care of Moira Mctaggert (his ex-love interest).
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Post by Firestarter on Jun 2, 2006 2:35:18 GMT -5
Lol, indeed. The movie version is nothing like the comics, considering Jackman is tall and handsome compared to the small, feral-looking comic-version.
I'm still not buying it - I think it's weak. They could have done a better death. And you have to to ask - why did his clothes not disintegrate? Actually I'm quite glad about that, but still ... (I guess it was a PG)
I guess it could still be set up for Magneto in the next movie, when his powers return, to go back and take over the school. Trusk was in the movie, but I'm not sure if that was just name placement to get that "X-Men" feel (since he wasn't very Trusk-ish).
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Post by reichieru on Jun 2, 2006 12:08:28 GMT -5
Yeah, the fact that his pants didn't go away was not realistic, but they had to do that to keep the PG rating. The healing factor made perfect sense to me, though. Maybe he was healing a little faster than usual, but overall it was still plausible.
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Post by smaur on Jun 2, 2006 18:27:43 GMT -5
... went to see X3 again today.
SIGH.
How can something be so visually gorgeous and SO painful to watch?
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Post by backgroundbob on Jun 2, 2006 18:34:21 GMT -5
I'm with Jack; it wasn't so much the deviation from comic-book routine, it was the pointless addition of random things that weren't important. Really, they tried to add too much comic-book stuff: more mutants, Sentinals, Pheonix-story - if Ratner had just stuck to making a good action movie, it might've been a lot better.
And did anyone catch the "I'm the Juggernaut, Bitch!" line? It just made me wince; it's like Magneto saying "all your base are belong to us" or something. Internet in-jokes need to *stay* Internet in-jokes; we don't get Wolverine running around screaming "Leroy Jenkins!" now do we?
Let's be honest about it, though: it wasn't an X-men movie. It was a Wolfie and Storm movie. And I'm cool with that - they just shouldn't have screwed around with other characters and plotlines so much. Keep it simple, stupid.
All your Leroy Jenkins are belong to us!
B****
Fnord.
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Post by smaur on Jun 2, 2006 19:28:50 GMT -5
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Brett Ratner Did Good. The directing itself was good; it was the actual screenplay that was problematic. Otherwise, he managed to get the actors to pull off most of the godawful lines pretty well(ish); the action sequences were good, and the visuals mostly-stunning. So, although I heart Bryan Singer, I think Brett Ratner did a pretty good job with the material that he was given.
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Post by backgroundbob on Jun 2, 2006 20:00:04 GMT -5
Hmm... not bad, not bad - Singer still would've done it better. For one thing, he would've forced them to change the appalling bits. For another, he would've actually kept it from turning into a Hugh and Halle exercise in ego-enhancement.
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Post by Rulke on Jun 3, 2006 5:31:39 GMT -5
Okay now i'm pi**ed, cause Nightcrawler in the game for pete sake, and the game sounds like it more involved than the movie. Cause in the game they go back to Alkalie Lake, and Nightcrawler get visons of Jason Styrker saying you left me to die. Also they mention the Setinals more and you see Mastermold.
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Post by Amenti on Jun 3, 2006 6:46:59 GMT -5
Fontroy... you what? I seen the movie, but it got confusing. But that's probably because I didn't see the last X-Men. It's alright and the movie's graphics and affects are amazing.
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