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Post by Firestarter on May 27, 2006 17:15:38 GMT -5
I don't know. It's kinda the same in the UK, colleges/universities go off certain exams scores - but we also have coursework (essays/practical write-ups) that get added into some subjects. It's a fair easier system to adjudicate, I suppose - I'm not saying it's better, but it's hard to judge anything else but a number/score.
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Post by Crysi on May 28, 2006 21:08:59 GMT -5
Please keep this on topic. If you want to debate the validity of such tests, this isn't the place. Thanks.
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Post by incandescence on May 30, 2006 13:07:33 GMT -5
Obviously, Rei, coursework and what-not comes into play. I was simply responding to the query regarding SAT scores.
As a side note, though, I will say that course-work and grades are not at all reliable. Universities get all kinds of transcripts in, and evaluating those transcripts with relation to the application is often difficult--why? Just because you take a course doesn't mean you know anything about it, and maybe your "advanced"-level course is some other student's school's "intermediate"-level. There is no good way for universities in the United States to base their estimation of you as a student strictly on your highschool transcript. Having said that, I think it is worth stating that certainly rigorous transcripts and challenging courses are appreciated at every level of study; however, do not fool yourself into thinking a great transcript can cover a poor SAT score. While a high SAT score can and oftentimes does cover a blemished academic record, the converse is simply not true in America.
And yes, sure, you have all kinds of letters of recommendation, volunteer and work experience to bolster your application, but the SAT is the major determining factor in deciding your admission status.
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Post by Snoink on May 30, 2006 16:51:25 GMT -5
I have a question... if you're a transfer student, do SAT scores really matter?
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Post by sabradan on May 30, 2006 17:39:36 GMT -5
Yes, but not as much. Also, it depends on the University, and their specific rules, as well as the amount of time you've stayed at the first institution. For example, Indiana University (and most midwestern State schools I've looked at) require either 32 hours of course work (approx. 2 years) at the previous institution, or less, and then they look at your test scores as well.
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Post by Dream Deep on May 31, 2006 15:22:50 GMT -5
It really depends on what schools you're interested in. Just as the SAT is graded on a curve, "good" scores are curve-based depending on the school you're interested in. Hi Brad - I'm plan as a mathematician, majoring in game theory. I was sorta hoping for Princeton, but I'm poor and it's going to take either a mind-boggingly good SAT score or some fancy foot work from God. ^_~ (Wow, did this thread attract attention or what?)
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Post by reichieru on May 31, 2006 18:57:10 GMT -5
Good thing that there are prep courses and you can take it again. While you do have valid points, it still seems rediculous that no matter how good everything else is, if you have severe test anxiety and or have special needs and can't get accomidations for the test that that could ruin your chances of getting into a good school.
Cheers to the provincial-wide curriculum!
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Post by Dream Deep on Jun 1, 2006 16:40:08 GMT -5
Thanks, Rei! ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^
(don't worry, i'm pertty good with tests... At least I tihnk I am... Am I?) *starts to sweat from anxiety*
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Post by incandescence on Jun 1, 2006 22:49:25 GMT -5
Ah Princeton...
Home of John Nash, progenitor of Game Theory itself. Well, right now, I've known 3 people who were admitted and are attending Princeton. They all scored 2200+ on the SAT, so keep that in mind. Also, being "poor" -- despite what universities may say -- does give you an added benefit when applying. If you have any further questions, feel free to email me at: kaleidopoet@gmail.com. I'll be more than willing to try and help you figure out how to assemble your application and what-not.
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Post by Dream Deep on Jun 2, 2006 15:20:31 GMT -5
Thank you so much, Brad! I'm... terribly grateful. ^_^
I love Nash, yeah. He went mad, but hey... he was cool.
I think I'll take you up on that offer to e-mail, if you don't mind. I'm in sort of an unsual predicament as concerns my academia, so I'll have to explain....
^_^ I <3 you. *exalts*
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Post by glitter on Jun 3, 2006 8:23:24 GMT -5
I gave the new SAT in May...and I just got my score a couple of days ago...i got an 1800...and from what I hear...anything above 1700 is acceptable...but I know people who got like scores in the range of 2100-2400...but it really does depend on which university you are applying too....SAT isn't too bad...you just need to know the format of the test really well...and it does take a lot of practice...and whatever you do...just do not panic in the test...it is intimidating but I've noticed that not panicking really works...soo good luck!
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Post by IceCreamMan on Jun 3, 2006 12:14:07 GMT -5
I'm sure you already know this DD, but he didn't "go mad." He is a paranoid schizophrenic. The movie A Beautiful Mind shows this very well. He is not crazy or mad or anywhere close. He suffers from a mental illness which causes him to hallucinate. These hallucinations used to make him do things that other people percieved as "mad." He has since then gained a lot of control over them. The way I understand it is that he still has hallucinations, but he is able to ignore them.
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Post by Dream Deep on Jun 3, 2006 12:33:14 GMT -5
I'm sure you already know this DD, but he didn't "go mad." He is a paranoid schizophrenic. The movie A Beautiful Mind shows this very well. He is not crazy or mad or anywhere close. He suffers from a mental illness which causes him to hallucinate. These hallucinations used to make him do things that other people percieved as "mad." He has since then gained a lot of control over them. The way I understand it is that he still has hallucinations, but he is able to ignore them. Ah. You caught me. I was being extremely lazy, but, lol... of course you're right. I have A Beautiful Mind - great movie. ^_^ I didn't feel like writing out schizophrenia. Thank you, though, for the correction.
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Post by Crysi on Jun 3, 2006 18:58:30 GMT -5
As much as I love A Beautiful Mind, lol... Keep it on topic. Thanks. Okay, so we all pretty much agree that 1700+ is an okay score, but 2000+ is better. What about on the SAT Subject Tests? What makes a good score on those? And how much do colleges consider them?
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Post by Meshugenah on Jun 3, 2006 20:10:39 GMT -5
Better yet, why, exactly, do us AP kids have to take them? The only ones I had any experience in (ok, enough to take the subject tests without buying a book and studing on my own), were my AP class ones, so USH and Chem, and Lit (it was so much like the AP test it was scary.. wait..same company.. but mor epoetry, which made me happy..). Is it for a standard base for all students, since not everyone is crazy and takes loads of AP classes and tests (ok, only so I don't have to take as many courses in college.. it's cheaper! yesh... on woman ad campagin for AP.. who can't spell.. ironic, no? BUT! I digress).
What is good for subject tests?
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